[evaal contest] Two questions on deploying a system for track1 (localization)

Dario Salvi dsalvi at lst.tfo.upm.es
Fri Jun 22 11:57:58 CEST 2012

Dear all,

in my humble opinion measuring the position of the appliances is 
actually part of the overall deployment.
The idea of this "installation time" measurement is to simulate a real 
deployment process in a real house, where you don't know what you will 
find inside until you go there and see.
The final objective is to give an advantage to those systems that don't 
need too much a-priori information and calibration, which are easier to 
deploy and maybe more acceptable for a real-world AAL scenario.

I would also remind that last year some competitors had took their 
measurements within that installation hour.

In conclusion, I am strongly against giving extra time to competitors, 
all should be done within the deployment hour.

Best regards,


El 22/06/2012 10:51, Paolo Barsocchi escribió:
> On 21 June 2012 22:54,  <dsalvi at lst.tfo.upm.es> wrote:
>> Caro Maurizio,
>>> 1. Does the competition allow measuring with more precision the
>>> coordinates of some of the objects found in the LivingLab (e.g., kitchen
>>> appliances, table and chairs, etc.) before the actual 1-hour slot reserved
>>> for the deployment of the system?
>> the deployment time includes calibration and measurements, thus I would
>> say: no, you need to take measurements within that hour.
>> Consider that you can have more than one people working at time (although
>> the more people you have the lower the score will be)
> If measure the coordinates of the LivingLab is seen as integrate the information
> we have provided, it is my opinion that we can give this opportunity
> to all teams
> that require to have more precise information.
> Members of the localization program committee, what do you think?
>>> 2. Is it possible to measure the coordinates at which the sensors will be
>>> deployed and eventually mark them before the actual 1-hour slot reserved
>>> for the deployment? (in this way, during the 1-hour deployment slot, one
>>> will have to only enter the LivingLab and position the sensors, instead of
>>> first measuring their coordinates and then position them).
>> as said before: the 1 hour deployment includes measurements and
>> calibration, you cannot use extra time.
>> I suggest you to come already with an idea of where to position the
>> beacons and to just refine the measurement in place.
>> A little suggestion for all competitors: laser distance meters are allowed
>> ;) (but are expensive!)
> I agree with Dario. Also in the last competition the competitors spend time to
> measure the sensors coordinates.

Dario Salvi
+34 915495700
dsalvi at lst.tfo.upm.es
Life Supporting Technologies
Departamento de Tecnología Fotónica y Bioingeniería
Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
Madrid, Spain

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